Curse

Aurixis · May 21, 2005, 02:05 AM // 02:05

I've also unlocked one major, maybe five minors, and ZERO superiors. It's because rune drops have so many chances involved, it's rediculous. First, you have to be the lucky guy that gets the purple/gold item in your party. Second, you have to be lucky enough for it to be something (anything - not ID and find out...it's really just a normal one with gold letters). Then, if you're lucky enough to get the rune you want, you have to be lucky enough to not screw up when salvaging the item. All of these factors give you (my made up statistic of) a 0.1% chance of getting an actual rune per mission, a 0.05% chance of getting the rune you want per mission, and 99.85% chance of getting jack.

Just me venting...

Phantium · May 21, 2005, 09:27 AM // 09:27

Not more drops, though better items should drop. I have not ever gotten a Superior Rune and I'd be lvl 30 by now. I farm all day, nothing other then minor runes and if I'm lucky I get a major rune.

Lasher Dragon · May 21, 2005, 03:28 PM // 15:28

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Originally Posted by Adaria

Ok so excuse me for being wrong...

Just forget I said anything then if you're going to be smart-arsed...

Just so you know, I wasn't trying to offend you or be a smart-ass.

Anyway, while it does say they increased the uncommon and rare drop rates, I actually liked it better before that patch. The reason is, before then (at least IME) when you got a purple or gold item, it was unidentified, always. I never got a purple or gold item without something more than craft materials in it before. Now it seems I get purple items all the time, with the occasional gold thrown in, but out of those items maybe 1 in 5 purple items will have something in 'em, and maybe half the gold items. Pretty anti-climactic.

sybban · May 21, 2005, 03:39 PM // 15:39

I think they should drop less, I always have a crap load of runes and rares. I hate selling stuff so i just give them away to people who need them. I don't think minor runes should actually have a price becuase they drop so much.

FFF_WarRaven · May 21, 2005, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by sybban

I think they should drop less, I always have a crap load of runes and rares. I hate selling stuff so i just give them away to people who need them. I don't think minor runes should actually have a price becuase they drop so much.

all your super runes belong to...... me? lol

well like i said getting the drops isnt a big deal getting them to salvo is what i think important, i also knotice certain characters seem to get more drops of certain items, im always getting decayed orr emblems or cloth from enemys ...or bows( i get lots and lots os bows ) lol

if you happen to come across super vigors or any super prime atribute runes for necros, warriors, or monks lemme know, am willing to but, just don't be ridecuals , ie in not gonna pay 10 k for a super lol, if ya want to give them away free my main char in game is Raven Scarr lol i'll take it alll MUHAHAHAAH!!!....cough..ahem..( recomposes himself )...carry on..that is all.

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Flatliner · May 21, 2005, 06:02 PM // 18:02

Stur, you have to remember, you're only 1/4 of the way through the game and you have already found 2 runes. You're actually doing pretty well.

Rasp · May 21, 2005, 09:07 PM // 21:07

People really need to realize that A-Net can not always please both PvP fans and PvE fans.

If they increased the drop rates and gave "Unlock all skills/runes/upgrades" button, it would be unfair for PvE fans. This game is NOT for PvP only fans, I've learnt to deal with that.

I personally think the system (drops) is fine as it is. It gives PvE fans something to do for quite some time, without "beating" the game in a month or 2.

Although they do need to work on the PVP content, so that you could unlock upgrades / runes / skills etc through PVP. I think that would please everyone IMO. Of course they will always have moaners with something to complain about. ( Not directed at anyone in this post, just saying.. )

Sadye X · May 21, 2005, 09:22 PM // 21:22

I can definitely see both sides of the argument ... and agree that the majority of players never see rare drops, or very few at most. I'm on Abbadon's right now, and have never yet seen a major or superior rune drop, nor a rare weapon for my class ( necro )

At the same time, I do think we all know what would happen if it was known that certain areas had high drop rates of x item / rune etc ... lets just say if you've ever seen the w/mo "how to farm Riverside" video ( forgot which thread I'd seen it in ) then you'll know what I'm talking about

And of course, in turn, then once it's general knowledge that all you need to do is make a w/mo and farm x area for 30 minutes you can guarantee that it'll be nerfed which then ruins certain aspects of the gaming experience for the non-farmers etc ...

Banned · May 22, 2005, 03:53 AM // 03:53

I dont know what your talking about with drop rates...... they suck, plain and simple. I have a level 20 monk, on last quest, and lvl 18 (almost 19) warrior, and 2 others, low level, but have only found 3 golds and 3 purps the entire time ive played. And ive put some time into this game... so what the heck are u saying that the drop rates are good. I do have about 15 minor runes though from using the expert salvage kit, which is nice.

But, still, i think the drop rate is horrible.

Goonter · May 22, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

Ive gotten through thunderkeeps with only finding 4 minor runes the whole way through. I hardly ever get anything cool. Ive never found anything Im looking for and rarely find anything I could use. I dont think the solution is in more rare drops though. I know this idea has been spoken before and done to death, but it would be the perfect solution.
A market place. Then everyone could share, sell, buy, trade thier rare items.

For pvp I think it would be cool for a player to be able to unlock x amount of items right off the bat. Those items would be unlocked once and for all for that character only.

Maiyn · May 25, 2005, 01:16 AM // 01:16

I find lots of minor runes.

My first superior rune didn't salvage. I was very upset :/

Skillful Slayer · May 25, 2005, 01:22 AM // 01:22

i kind of agree with upping the drop rate the amount of effort it takes for me to get anything that even resembles useful for me is ridiculous throught the entire game i've found 1 rare item that i accidentally salvaged and i've found 3 or 4 purple items given that im not all the way through im only up to the ring of fire but the fact that im using a wand that plain and simple does 10-20 makes me kind of sad lol

Ironsword · May 25, 2005, 05:39 AM // 05:39

my drops are fairly decent but what i've noticed is that i'm getting less and less stuff when i'm out in the wilderness i'm in the process of ascention right now i've fought my way there usually using the henchmen and even though i can still only have 6 members in my party the drops reserved for me are getting fewer and fewer i used to use up my backpack belt and both bags with runes of holding now when i come into town after being out running around for a long while i still haven't even put a single item in a bag i get lots of rare items but nothing of value to me i'm getting runes and items for other classes and rarely do i ever find a sword or bow and when i do it's not as good as the weapons that i bought i don't stand around selling crap in towns so i just dump it off on a merchant or guildmembers who can use these things

Dyeeo · May 25, 2005, 06:00 AM // 06:00

Thats really wierd...by the time I was level 16 on my first character, I had like 20 minor runes and 1 superior. I guess I am just pretty lucky?

stumpy · Jun 02, 2005, 06:41 PM // 18:41

yes ... yes you are pretty lucky ... My 1st character (beat the game, farms daily) superior runes unlocked or received to date = 0 2nd third fourth characters havent a shot in hell so they are lucky enough to be in my list. I get tons of minor ... i mean like tons ... through hard long hours of work though. There is no magic 1 day cure all for superior runes. It takes time ... the game wasnt meant to be beaten in 20hrs although it very well can be.

It is frusterating but I have been in many groups where they have gotten superior runes (which adds to my frusteration lol, but at least I know they exist so i have a small light at end of a long tunnel)

The game is balanced fine, the trading system needs some help though ... they should really just make an auction house in each city which you have to ENTER into a new map ... easier to find what you need without corrupting daily peeps gameplay in regular windows (so maybe they can group up without 40 WTS between each response haha.)

Stev0 · Jun 02, 2005, 07:28 PM // 19:28

I'm a monk/elementalist.

I have tons of Bows and Hammers of various grades. My buddy gets all ranger oriented items and all I get is 2 count em ... 2 minor runes and I am 20th level. My 2 rare drops are utterly useless protection items give +10 armor.

Like WTF?

I dont see changes in item drops either.

Chev of Hardass · Jun 02, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26

From the update last night. I saw a change.

I suspect that the DEVs will see that it is suddenly too easy to get stuff, so they will cut back again, but till then, thanks.

Anyone else notice this?

Tactical-Dillusions · Jun 03, 2005, 01:07 AM // 01:07

I spent most of my day hunting in my favourite farm. I managed to get myself an almost identical copy of my rare "shocking flatbow", the only difference being it's not a shocking flatbow of shelter, but a shocking flatbow of enchanting. Same dmg though.
I also got around 8 major runes and around 12 minor runes. Really nice to get so many. I have stashed them away for when i make a new character in the future.
I nearly got a superior rune but it didn't salvage. I don't like anything above minor anyway. The health deduction is way too steep for my liking.

Great patch guys! Good job!

A11Eur0 · Jun 03, 2005, 07:06 AM // 07:06

I found 2 superiors and 5 majors today in one area, 2 of those majors and one superior in a single farm run. Drop rates are fine, becaues I've only gotten minors and a few majors since then with about 10 runs through the area. And I'm not saying what area it is, I don't want it nerfed. I've also gotten a couple nice gold weapons, one of which is a +28 health +6 armor max damage bone staff with req 10, salvaged the +6 armor...lame.

FFF_WarRaven · Jun 03, 2005, 08:11 AM // 08:11

ok maybe i read it wrong but the update says that purple and gold items, at least the ones that are supposed to yeild runes...."will" yeild the runes when u salvo?

is this correct?

cause if so i'd just like to say W T F??? myself and 2 other guild mates went farming and to make a long story short, 5 gold items and 6 or 7 purple items that said they were runes...turned into crappy common crafting items which you get by salvoing all the reg garbage that turns up....

so were talking about several majors and a few Supers?? this really heats me up cause its been like this from the start basically

like i said before why in the hell even get one if i can't get what it says it is ? i'm not even getting a 40/60% or even a 30/70% rate here...maybe its just me i dunno im a lvl 20 ascended and all that jazz blab blab beat the game....

i'm getting extreamly pissed off....esp now that majors and supers are at stupid high prices....i bought a super vigor in the first week for 3k....now they at 15k+ i seen one bought for a price thats more than a gdam sigil!!! wtf are u people thinking?

[ insert /fistshake here ] ( they really need a /strangle emote or maybe /implode or even /spontanious combust ...tho u might bust before u have time to type half of it )

i just dont get it....

also on a side note can anyone tell me if the leet armors for a necro look anything different than the draknors armor? the pictures the merchant displayes looks the same, how the hell am i supposed to know what it looks like and if its really worth my 15,000 gps a peice??? what if i want to mix and match??? i have yet to earn more than 40,000 gps would be nice to have some previews from the merchant before i go and spend all that hard earned gps to find out it looks like crap...

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